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Description |
Scenario 1a |
Scenario 1b |
Scenario 1c |
Scenario 2 |
Scenario 3a |
Scenario 3b |
| Furnace 80% 4-ton down
flow: |
$1500 |
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| Coil - 4 ton (requires
taking out and re-installing the furnace to access the coil. Included in
price of furnace if furnace is replaced at the same time): |
$500 |
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| A/C Condenser 4-ton 13
SEER: |
$2000 |
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| Check all air ducts (included) |
$0 |
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Inspect all accessible ducts for
integrity. Salesman verbally said that any ducts that required metal taping
would be taped. Any larger work would be extra cost. |
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| Install filter grills
in both (2) return air registers (included): |
$0 |
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| Reuse existing
electrical, pipes, thermostat (- $50): |
$0 |
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| Furnace MFG Rebate |
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If the
entire system is installed by 6/11/07 |
If the
entire system is installed by , the total rebate is
$900.00. $414.00 discount if paid by check or
cash. |
If the entire system is installed by
, the total rebate is $900.00.
$451 discount if paid by check or cash. |
| Equipment MFG Rebate |
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$1,200.00 |
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| PG&E Rebate |
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$250.00 |
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| Federal Rebate |
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$300.00 |
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| Total Cost: |
$3500 |
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$15,568.28 |
$14,185.98 |
$15,498.33 |
| Down payment at order |
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$0 |
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| Final payment due at installation
completion |
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$15,568.28 |
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| Alameda county permits |
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At
actual cost. |
Owner
provided |
Owner
provided |
| Inspection |
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Owner
provided |
Owner
provided |
Owner
provided |
| Includes labor |
Yes |
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Yes |
Yes |
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| Includes materials |
Yes |
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Yes |
Yes
Includes all sheetmetal, flex connectors, flex gas line,
miscellanesou material & wiring necessary to connect to existing ductwork,
flue pipe & utilities.
Excludes overtime labor, new 220V wiring to condenser,
condensate drywell pit, 110V GFCI service plug at condenser, existing code
violations if any, permit & fees, new ductwork & city/county designations
other than planned. |
Same as
3a |
| Includes installation |
Yes |
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Yes |
Yes |
Same as
3a |
| Include clean-up |
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Yes |
Yes |
Same as
3a. |
| Include removal of replaced
equipment |
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Yes |
Remove
and recycle existing equipment. Reclaim refrigerant in accordance w/ EPA. |
Same as
3a |
| Includes Filing MFG warranty |
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| Equipment Warranty |
Manufacturer |
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10 year
parts and labor. |
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| Installation Warranty |
30 days |
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2 years |
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| In-home consultation |
| 10/6/06 |
Technician inspected the condenser
and furnace. Looked around the house and indicated the condenser was
probably sized for the square footage of the home but did not take into
account the high vaulted ceilings. As a result it was too small based on
the symptoms I indicated. He indicated the cooling temperature at the
registers when the A/C is on should be in the 40's or 50's degrees
°F rather than the 66 degrees
°F I measured. No
measurements or calculations were made while onsite.
He said that they would have to remove the furnace
to replace the coil if the condenser is replaced so it might be
advantageous to replace the furnace at the same time. |
| 10/11/06 |
The owner/salesman called to
follow-up on the 10/6 in-home estimate. He provided a great deal more
detail on their estimate. He explained a little more about how they
arrived at the 4-ton capacity they spec'd for my home. He told me that
the current system I have is 3.5 ton on the A/C and the furnace. He said
that the A/C is probably under capacity because the furnace is only 3.5
ton and the previous owners probably didn't want to replace the furnace
and settled on a 3.5 ton A/C as a compromise. He had me read him the
model number and confirmed that it was a 3.5 ton condenser. When I told
him that my decision process would be significantly shorter if they
could provide a list of MFG and Models for me to select from rather than
just the MFG's. He emailed me an itemized estimate showing everything
included for the price as well as a list of 3 furnace/Condenser model
sets to investigate and choose from. He said he could provide more if I
needed them. |
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| 05/11/07 |
The salesman dropped about 30
minutes later however his office called to let me know he was stuck in
traffic. He was a relatively new salesman
but an experienced installer.
On his first trip he went over the Trane product
line, company, etc. He looked around the house and the backyard where
the compressor is.
He left because I had another appt. but returned
later in the afternoon. During this trip he manually calculated a heat
and cooling load for the house based on window measurements, room sq.
ft. He did not measure the ceiling heights.
His load calculations indicated a 4-ton furnace
and compressor would do the job.
He wrote up a detailed estimate including the
equipment but only left me with the proposal. That did not include a
total breakdown of all the rebates.
I asked him to contact me as soon as possible with
answers to the following questions confirmed by his boss:
- Double check load calc's taking into account
the ceiling heights of 18' in the living room and 13' in the bedrooms.
- Check if the Alameda county code says how
much clearance is required from the compressor to the fence or
property line.
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| 5/15/2007 |
Salesman returned with a corrected
and adjusted proposal incorporating all requested changes. The proposal
was signed. |
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| 05/11/07 |
The salesman arrived on time with a
briefcase, ladder, and laptop. He listened
to the problems I was trying to solve, went over the Lennox product line
that they sell.
He visually inspected the compressor, furnace, and
even the ductwork in the crawl space. He took digital photos of the
furnace, compressor, and ductwork in the crawl space.
He measured the room volumes with a laser device.
He did not measure the window sizes or did he take any readings based on
the side of the house (N, E, W, S).
He entered his measurements into the laptop and
printed a professional looking analysis of the heat and cooling load. He
left copies with me.
He wrote an estimate on the spot. |
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| In-store consultation |
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| Installer |
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| Installer BBB
complaints in last 36 months (complaints/resolved/consumer acknowledged) |
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| Installer BBB
complaints in the last year (complaints/resolved/consumer acknowledged) |
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| Installer has
California C-20 (HVAC) license |
Yes |
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| Installer
sub-contracts installation services |
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| Installer has
appropriate bonds |
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Yes |
Yes |
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| Installer has
appropriate liability insurance |
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Yes |
Yes |
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ServiceMaster Rating |
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5 star |
4.5 star |
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| References provided |
Yes.
Through
ServiceMaster. |
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Yes. |
Yes |
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| Installer
impressions |
The
initial technician was professional, personable, and knowledgeable. He was
careful to not soil the carpet by putting on the shoe covers I provided. I
wish he had based his analysis of the problem based on some calculation of
the sizing of the home, an examination of the air handling by at the
registers, and the size of the windows, etc. |
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| Furnace MFG & Model: |
Amana or
Goodman
AMS80905CX
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Carrier
58DLA048.
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Trane
TDE1B100A9451A  |
Trane
XV90
TDY120R9V5V (local copy)
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Lennox
G60DFV-60C-110X
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Lennox
G61MPV-60C-111
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| Furnace SEER: |
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| Furnace Energy Star Rated: |
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yes |
yes |
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| Furnace Efficiency AFUE (%): |
80 |
80 |
80 |
92.5 |
80 |
95 |
| Furnace Capacity (tons): |
4 |
4 |
4 |
5 |
5 |
Same as
3a |
| Furnace BTUh: |
72,000 |
44,000 - 154,000
BTUH |
80,000 |
74,000
/ 112,000 |
110,000 |
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| Furnace Stages: |
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2 |
2 |
Same as
3a |
| Furnace Motor Speed: |
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Single speed |
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variable
speed |
variable
speed |
Same as
3a |
| Furnace Coil: |
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Install
new 5-ton cased coil w/ TXV valve. |
Install
new coil. |
Same as
3a |
| Number and location of: air filters: |
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Install
new
Trane Clean Affects filtration system
(local copy)
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Install
new Aspen CC60D44210R-024(C)
filtration system.
Requires annual purchase of new filter directly from Lennox-only.
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Same as
3a |
| Filter Clean Air Delivery Rate (CADR): |
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1200 |
1900 |
Same as
3a |
| Furnace MFG Warranty: |
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5-year parts; 20-year warranty on "SuperS™" heat
exchanger |
 | Twenty-year limited warranty on heat
exchanger. |
 | Five-year limited warranty on internal
functional parts. |
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Trane warranty |
 | Lifetime limited on primary and secondary heat
exchangers. |
 | 5 year on internal functional parts (10 years
if XLi condenser also installed). |
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 | Heat exchanger, 20 years. |
 | Parts, 5 years. |
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Same as 3a |
| Furnace Installer Warranty: |
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 | Labor, 1 year |
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Same as
3a |
| Furnace Notes: |
14 SEER
Amana add 350.00 |
14 SEER Carrier
add 600.00 |
All Trane equipment add $500.00.
14 SEER Trane Add 925.00 |
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| System Thermostats: |
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Install 2
Trane
Digital Comfort controls (local
copy)
1 downstairs, 1 upstairs
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Install 2
Lennox X4147 Elite Touch Screen 2H/2C
thermostats.
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Same as
3a |
| System Zones: |
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Install
new dual zone automatic zone damper system. Install new Honeywell dual zone
board w/ new automatic zone bypass dampers.
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Install
Lennox 2-Zone
system. |
Same as
3a |
| System SEER: |
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17 |
16 |
| System EER: |
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12.5 |
11.6 |
| System AFUE: |
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80.0 |
95.0 |
| System ARI#: |
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1003416 |
915272 |
| System Tier: |
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2 (R) |
2 (R) |
| Other: |
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 | Field
braze, leak test, and charge system. |
 | Reconnect furnace to existing gas & drains. |
 | Tape, seal, and insulate all sheet metal at
furnace. |
 | Install
new 2" PVC flue vent from furnace to right side of house. |
 | Seal all house penetrations. |
 | Perform full system evaluation upon completion. |
 | Run new 7/8" insulated copper line
set from compressor to new Trane coil. |
 | Install new 50 AMP fused disconnect & 3/4"
electrical whip at A/C. |
 | Install new ultralight A/C pad. |
 | Run all control wiring. |
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 | Install approximately 75' of refrigerant piping. |
 | Install condenser pad over existing concrete pad if
possible. Otherwise install new pad. |
 | Install primary condensate drain. |
 | Install electrical disconnect with fuse. |
 | Install approximately 60' of new thermostat wire. |
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Same as
3a |
| A/C Compressor MFG & Models: |
Amana or Goodman
ASC130481A
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Carrier
24ACR3048  |
Trane
2TTB3048B (Couldn't find the exact model. Only a 2TTB3048A)
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Trane XL19i dual
compressor
2TTZ9060A1000A (local copy
Trane product page)
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Lennox
XC21-060-230
condenser
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Same as
3a |
| A/C Compressor Size (HxWxD) (inches): |
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50x37x34 Should fit through front door. |
47x35.5x39.5
Might require going through neighbors yard. |
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| A/C Compressor Seer: |
14 SEER models are. |
13 |
13 |
19 |
17 |
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| A/C Compressor Capacity (tons): |
4 |
4 |
4 |
5 |
5 |
5 |
| A/C Compressor Energy Star Rated: |
No |
yes |
No.
2TTR4048A is Energy Star rated. |
yes |
yes |
yes |
| A/C Compressor BTUh: |
46,000 |
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| A/C Compressor Noise (dB): |
76 |
74 |
78 |
74 |
73 |
Same as
3a |
| A/C Compressor MFG Warranty: |
 | 10-Year
Limited Warranty on compressors and outdoor coil. |
 | 10-Year
Limited Warranty on internal functional parts. |
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 | 10-year
compressor limited warranty |
 | 5-year parts limited warranty |
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 | 5-Year
Limited Warranty on compressors and outdoor coil. |
 | 5-Year
Limited Warranty on internal functional parts. |
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 | Compressor 10 years. |
 | Condenser parts: 10 years. |
 | Parts, 5 years. |
 | Labor 1 year. |
 | 1 year money back guarantee. |
 | Installation workmanship guarantee. |
 | "No Lemons" Guarantee. |
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Same as
3a |
| A/C Compressor Installer Warranty: |
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| A/C Compressor Notes: |
14 SEER Amana add
350.00 |
14 SEER Carrier
add 600.00 |
All Trane equipment add $500.00.
14 SEER Trane Add 925.00 |
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